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February 01, 2010

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Carrie

His email address is bszoka@pff.org. I hope people who read this open letter and agree with it will send BS (oops... irony much?) an email telling him off and including the link to this open letter.

Sarah D.

BRAVO!! This is a brilliant open letter back to Berin. You couldn't have said it any better. In that picture, Berin is surrounded by three deaf students, and yet he still has NO clue what it's like for us. Berin, your world is way ahead with technology, and we're left behind. We shouldn't have to "wait."

Ben Vess

First, I must say this: I am truly sorry about whatever personal issues you have with the person you are attacking and I do sincerely hope that you find the time to resolve these issues between yourself and him.

This is a poorly written blog entry. Sadly, you lost me when you started with the insults (smartass, dweeb, stupid, and many more) and I felt that you, in your angry rant, lost your focus. You stated that the bill itself meant a lot to you and he didn't; however, you went off on a tangent about how horrible he is, as a person, for the Deaf community.

What happened to the bill that was so "important" to you??

Resorting to wishing violence on someone (your last line), is truly a low blow. I am saddened to even say this, but, it needs to be said: I am ashamed to call myself a member of the Deaf community after this article. I always thought my community was better than these petty insults and personal defamation of character.

Has it really come to this point where nobody can take the high horse and be an appropriate role model for a civilized disagreement??

Truly tragic article and it reflects on you and all of us as well.

Hopefully, you will strive to improve on representing yourself and our community a little bit better next time.

-Ben

PS Putting his personal email for all to harass him is almost, if not, criminal, you're walking on thin ice here. You are responsible for comments that you approve to be published.

Adam Stone

Hello Ben! Couldn't help but be delighted at what you just said:

"I am ashamed to call myself a member of the Deaf community after this article. I always thought my community was better than these petty insults and personal defamation of character."

Gee, where have you been on the internets the last decade? This is nothing compared to the mud that's been slung around (and I remember you being in the thick of it a year and half ago). By that standard, you should have been ashamed, oh, about two minutes after you entered the deaf chat room on AOL in 1997 or something.

Basing your pride or shame of your own community on one person's editorial does an injustice to yourself, your intelligence, and your community. And frankly, I mean it when I say you're a better writer than to use those canned clichés.

That said, Allison's editorial could have done without the ad hominem parts. Fun to read, though. It should be condensed into an editorial to be published in the Los Angeles Times. Allison, do it. One additional fact you could throw in is that a lot of those accessible features from Apple, Microsoft, and Adobe, that Berin mentions in his op-ed, all exist partly because they were mandated by Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act. Had these companies not included these features in their software, they couldn't sell those products to the Federal government (a huge customer!).

Sarah D.

While I support the HR 3101 and as much as I heart you, I have to admit that I agree with Ben on some level. I definitely wouldn't wish any harsh violence upon Berin. I also wouldn't want people calling me a dweeb or my opinions dumb, as that would sting.

I just wish I didn't have to say that my old classmate, who actually saw how hard it is for us deafies to keep up, actually thinks HR 3101 is the "wrong approach." But to each their own. We all have a various range of opinions about everything in life.

It does suck being left behind, while the hearing world gets to enjoy all the technology without any barriers. I wouldn't want to wait 5 years for something that could be better than it would be currently. Look at computers. Computers are continuously upgraded and improved. We're not holding off computers until they're the best it can ever be. So let technology for the disabled be the same way.

kinabnet

I am not familiar with HR 3101 nor am I hearing impaired. But I do have a disabled child that may never benefit from technology such as voice recognition, certainly not in the way it's intended to be used in the future. It seems as though it takes the right powerful person's life being affected by a disability before real changes are made. Lets hope Mr. Berin takes this opportunity to gain a new perspective on where the "need for growth" truly lies.

I am my son's voice. I don't do well with sitting quietly in a corner until the right person cares. (If I did, I wouldn't be writing this.) You can 'pick' on me, but don't 'pick' on my children. I didn't find one thing offensive in Allison's letter. Having a daughter, I hope she finds her way out of the corner every chance she gets.

kinabnet

Ben Vess

Mr. Stone!

I admit I made a mistake and I have paid for it. I've done things to right the wrongs I've done.

You shouldn't justify this rant by pointing mines out.

Two wrongs does not make a right.

-Ben

QueenAlpo

Thanks for all the comments.

I'd like to take a moment to say I take responsibility for everything I say here. There is no malice meant, and I've cringed over the last couple days as I've seen others curse directly at and wish all kinds of doom on my old schoolyard buddy.

While I disagree violently with the ideas he expressed in his article, I wish him no ill will. I haven't seen the guy in 20 years, for heavens' sakes, and I certainly don't expect a short time we spent together in a classroom to have any real currency with him.

I hope that it is clear here in what is my attempt to relate on a personal level with someone who got up on a national soapbox what I am trying to do: appeal to his (and other opponents' of HR 3101) sense of humanity.

I also sincerely hope that this blog does not detract overmuch from what is really important here: getting HR 3101 passed.

Thanks again, guys.

Adam Stone

Mr. Vess!

Talking about your past actions wasn't really my point.

The quote, "I am ashamed to be a part of this community because of article X" has been used far too many times across the internet by people trying to inject a morsel of morality or seriousness into a discussion. Examples of said quote are plentiful at http://bit.ly/bELsuI.

It's basically a hollow and meaningless statement, for there are always far worse things out there. I just thought you could do better than to rehash that. :)

Allison, are you writing a response to be published in the LA Times yet?!

Keri

Ali, great post as always! I love it when you speak your mind. To everyone else: have you ever heard of SARCASM? This is Ali being Ali. She means no harm. All she is doing is making a point. This is her blog where she can vent in any way she wants. If this post were a formal letter, that would be a different story. And Berin, ARE YOU READING THIS?!

Ben Vess

Mr stone!

let's continue this outside this board..

:-D

-Ben

Nancy

When a person or a loved one does not need accomodations, they rarely understand the need for them, whether it be deaf/blind/neurological impairments... We all have to speak up for what we all need. I have certainly ranted enough for my child. Thank you, Allison.

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